{"id":5596,"date":"2022-02-01T21:45:59","date_gmt":"2022-02-01T20:45:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/technophilosoph.com\/2022\/02\/01\/spotify-kontroverse-hat-sich-joe-rogan-wirklich-entschuldigt-nein-hat-er-nicht\/"},"modified":"2022-02-01T22:05:27","modified_gmt":"2022-02-01T21:05:27","slug":"controverse-sur-spotify-joe-rogan-sest-il-vraiment-excuse-non-il-ne-la-pas-fait","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/technophilosoph.com\/fr\/2022\/02\/01\/controverse-sur-spotify-joe-rogan-sest-il-vraiment-excuse-non-il-ne-la-pas-fait\/","title":{"rendered":"Controverse sur Spotify : Joe Rogan s&rsquo;est-il vraiment excus\u00e9 ? Non, il ne l&rsquo;a pas fait !"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Nils Lofgren et un certain nombre d&rsquo;autres musiciens ont retir\u00e9 leurs chansons de la plateforme de streaming Spotify, et si l&rsquo;on en croit Twitter, de nombreux utilisateurs ont \u00e9galement ferm\u00e9 leurs comptes sur Spotify. La controverse concerne le podcasteur Joe Rogan, qui avait \u00e9t\u00e9 mis en exclusivit\u00e9 sur la plateforme par Spotify il y a quelques ann\u00e9es seulement pour la somme de 100 millions de dollars. Rogan, connu pour ses longs podcasts avec des invit\u00e9s de tous horizons, s&rsquo;est de plus en plus distingu\u00e9 ces derniers mois comme un sceptique de la vaccination, qui ne voulait pas croire m\u00eame les experts m\u00e9dicaux et virologues reconnus et invitait \u00e0 la place des experts douteux de la partie adverse. Mais la critique est devenue trop forte, Spotify a perdu des milliards de dollars, soit plus de 10 pour cent de sa valeur, et m\u00eame Anthony Fauci, le meilleur virologue am\u00e9ricain, avait d\u00e9j\u00e0 critiqu\u00e9 Joe Rogan en avril dernier pour avoir fourni de fausses informations. Sur Instagram, Rogan publie d\u00e9sormais une r\u00e9ponse dans laquelle des \u00ab\u00a0excuses\u00a0\u00bb ont \u00e9galement \u00e9t\u00e9 pr\u00e9sent\u00e9es.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-instagram wp-block-embed-instagram\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"instagram-media\" data-instgrm-captioned data-instgrm-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/tv\/CZYQ_nDJi6G\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" data-instgrm-version=\"14\" style=\" background:#FFF; border:0; border-radius:3px; box-shadow:0 0 1px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.5),0 1px 10px 0 rgba(0,0,0,0.15); margin: 1px; max-width:658px; min-width:326px; padding:0; width:99.375%; width:-webkit-calc(100% - 2px); width:calc(100% - 2px);\"><div style=\"padding:16px;\"> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/tv\/CZYQ_nDJi6G\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" background:#FFFFFF; line-height:0; padding:0 0; text-align:center; text-decoration:none; 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font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:550; line-height:18px;\">View this post on Instagram<\/div><\/div><div style=\"padding: 12.5% 0;\"><\/div> <div style=\"display: flex; flex-direction: row; margin-bottom: 14px; align-items: center;\"><div> <div style=\"background-color: #F4F4F4; border-radius: 50%; height: 12.5px; width: 12.5px; transform: translateX(0px) translateY(7px);\"><\/div> <div style=\"background-color: #F4F4F4; height: 12.5px; transform: rotate(-45deg) translateX(3px) translateY(1px); width: 12.5px; flex-grow: 0; margin-right: 14px; margin-left: 2px;\"><\/div> <div style=\"background-color: #F4F4F4; border-radius: 50%; height: 12.5px; width: 12.5px; transform: translateX(9px) translateY(-18px);\"><\/div><\/div><div style=\"margin-left: 8px;\"> <div style=\" background-color: #F4F4F4; border-radius: 50%; flex-grow: 0; height: 20px; width: 20px;\"><\/div> <div style=\" width: 0; height: 0; border-top: 2px solid transparent; border-left: 6px solid #f4f4f4; border-bottom: 2px solid transparent; transform: translateX(16px) translateY(-4px) rotate(30deg)\"><\/div><\/div><div style=\"margin-left: auto;\"> <div style=\" width: 0px; border-top: 8px solid #F4F4F4; border-right: 8px solid transparent; transform: translateY(16px);\"><\/div> <div style=\" background-color: #F4F4F4; flex-grow: 0; height: 12px; width: 16px; transform: translateY(-4px);\"><\/div> <div style=\" width: 0; height: 0; border-top: 8px solid #F4F4F4; border-left: 8px solid transparent; transform: translateY(-4px) translateX(8px);\"><\/div><\/div><\/div> <div style=\"display: flex; flex-direction: column; flex-grow: 1; justify-content: center; margin-bottom: 24px;\"> <div style=\" background-color: #F4F4F4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; margin-bottom: 6px; width: 224px;\"><\/div> <div style=\" background-color: #F4F4F4; border-radius: 4px; flex-grow: 0; height: 14px; width: 144px;\"><\/div><\/div><\/a><p style=\" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; line-height:17px; margin-bottom:0; margin-top:8px; overflow:hidden; padding:8px 0 7px; text-align:center; text-overflow:ellipsis; white-space:nowrap;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/tv\/CZYQ_nDJi6G\/?utm_source=ig_embed&amp;utm_campaign=loading\" style=\" color:#c9c8cd; font-family:Arial,sans-serif; font-size:14px; font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; line-height:17px; text-decoration:none;\" target=\"_blank\">A post shared by Joe Rogan (@joerogan)<\/a><\/p><\/div><\/blockquote><script async src=\"\/\/platform.instagram.com\/en_US\/embeds.js\"><\/script>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mais sont-elles de vraies excuses ? En tant qu&rsquo;auteur du livre \u00ab\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/gp\/product\/3864707838\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Sorry Not Sorry : L&rsquo;art de ne pas s&rsquo;excuser<\/a>\u00ab\u00a0, un r\u00e9gal tout trouv\u00e9, et comme pr\u00e9vu, les excuses n&rsquo;en sont pas. Mais voici dans l&rsquo;ordre :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tout d&rsquo;abord, il s&rsquo;excuse, non pas aupr\u00e8s des auditeurs qu&rsquo;il a mal inform\u00e9s, mais aupr\u00e8s de Spotify, et du fait que l&rsquo;entreprise soit devenue la cible des critiques :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Je tiens \u00e0 remercier Spotify de nous avoir soutenus pendant cette p\u00e9riode et je suis vraiment d\u00e9sol\u00e9 que cela leur soit arriv\u00e9 et qu&rsquo;ils aient d\u00fb essuyer autant de critiques pour cela.<\/p><cite>Joe Rogan<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nous connaissons ce <em>13e Artifice : C&rsquo;est arriv\u00e9, mais je suis la v\u00e9ritable victime<\/em> du cardinal de Cologne Rainer Maria Woelki, qui s&rsquo;est excus\u00e9 non pas aupr\u00e8s des victimes d&rsquo;abus dans son dioc\u00e8se, mais aupr\u00e8s des fid\u00e8les rassembl\u00e9s lors de la messe de minuit d&rsquo;avoir d\u00fb assister aux attaques dont il a \u00e9t\u00e9 victime. Voici le <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/technophilosoph.com\/fr\/2021\/04\/22\/lart-de-ne-pas-sexcuser\/\" data-type=\"post\" data-id=\"3847\" target=\"_blank\">texte de Woelki<\/a> :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>\u00ab\u00a0Ce que les personnes concern\u00e9es par les violences sexuelles et vous-m\u00eame avez d\u00fb endurer au cours des derniers jours et semaines avant No\u00ebl en rapport avec l&rsquo;utilisation de l&rsquo;expertise sur l&rsquo;\u00e9tude des violences sexuelles dans notre archev\u00each\u00e9, ce que vous avez d\u00fb supporter comme critiques \u00e0 ce sujet et en particulier aussi comme critiques \u00e0 mon \u00e9gard &#8211; pour tout cela, je vous demande pardon\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p><cite>Cardinal Rainer Maria Woelki<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Revenons \u00e0 Joe Rogan. A propos de Neil Young et Joni Mitchell, il a dit<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Je suis vraiment d\u00e9sol\u00e9 que vous le ressentiez ainsi. Je ne veux certainement pas cela. Je suis un fan de Neil Young. J&rsquo;ai toujours \u00e9t\u00e9 un fan de Neil Young.<\/p><cite>Joe Rogan<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En d&rsquo;autres termes, si c&rsquo;est ce qu&rsquo;ils ressentent, c&rsquo;est leur probl\u00e8me, pas le mien. S&rsquo;ils ne le ressentaient pas ainsi, il n&rsquo;y aurait pas de probl\u00e8me et donc rien \u00e0 excuser. Pas moi, les autres sont trop sensibles ici. Il a \u00e9galement r\u00e9p\u00e9t\u00e9 la phrase sous une forme l\u00e9g\u00e8rement diff\u00e9rente :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Si je t&rsquo;ai contrari\u00e9, je m&rsquo;en excuse.<\/p><cite>Joe Rogan<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Si personne n&rsquo;est f\u00e2ch\u00e9, il n&rsquo;y a rien \u00e0 regretter, n&rsquo;est-ce pas ? Et c&rsquo;est le <em>17e Artifice : Les gens sont tout simplement trop sensibles<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Un autre \u00e9l\u00e9ment entre en ligne de compte :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Je suis un fan de Neil Young. J&rsquo;ai toujours \u00e9t\u00e9 un fan de Neil Young.<\/p><cite>Joe Rogan<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">C&rsquo;est l&rsquo;\u00e9quivalent de \u00ab\u00a0j&rsquo;ai aussi des amis noirs\/arabes\/juifs\u00a0\u00bb. je ne peux pas \u00eatre x\u00e9nophobe, puisque j&rsquo;ai moi-m\u00eame des \u00e9trangers comme amis. Cela est r\u00e9sum\u00e9 dans le <em>14e Artifice : Ne peut pas \u00eatre, parce que je suis aussi (pas) comme \u00e7a<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Il att\u00e9nue aussi massivement ses intentions. Il s&rsquo;agit simplement d&rsquo;un podcast inoffensif avec des amis et des connaissances.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Je n&rsquo;ai jamais essay\u00e9 de faire autre chose avec ce podcast que de simplement parler aux gens et d&rsquo;avoir des conversations int\u00e9ressantes. [\u2026] Au d\u00e9but, je ne faisais que plaisanter avec mes amis.<\/p><cite>Joe Rogan<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">J&rsquo;ai r\u00e9sum\u00e9 cela sous le <em>8e Artifice : C&rsquo;est arriv\u00e9, mais c&rsquo;\u00e9tait un malentendu<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La sinc\u00e9rit\u00e9 de ses excuses se refl\u00e8te dans le fait qu&rsquo;il justifie \u00e0 nouveau le choix de ses invit\u00e9s et de leurs opinions, bien que celles-ci aient conduit \u00e0 ce que son podcast soit accus\u00e9 de \u00ab\u00a0diffusion de fausses informations dangereuses\u00a0\u00bb. Ses invit\u00e9s sont les suivants<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>\u2026des personnes tr\u00e8s qualifi\u00e9es, tr\u00e8s intelligentes, tr\u00e8s performantes.<\/p><cite>Joe Rogan<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Et il en rajoute :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Le probl\u00e8me que j&rsquo;ai avec le terme de d\u00e9sinformation, c&rsquo;est que beaucoup de choses que nous consid\u00e9rions il y a peu comme des d\u00e9sinformations sont aujourd&rsquo;hui accept\u00e9es comme des faits.<\/p><cite>Joe Rogan<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pas de signe de compr\u00e9hension, pas de signe qu&rsquo;il va en tirer des le\u00e7ons et qu&rsquo;il veut faire mieux.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Le comportementaliste am\u00e9ricain David P. Boyd a d\u00e9fini <a href=\"https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1007\/s10551-011-0915-9\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">sept \u00e9tapes successives<\/a> pour s&rsquo;excuser correctement, ce qu&rsquo;il appelle l&rsquo;art des excuses publiques :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>R\u00e9v\u00e9lation<\/li><li>Reconnaissance<\/li><li>R\u00e9activit\u00e9<\/li><li>Responsabilit\u00e9<\/li><li>Remords<\/li><li>Remboursement<\/li><li>R\u00e9forme<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dans les deux premi\u00e8res \u00e9tapes, on prend conscience que des erreurs ont \u00e9t\u00e9 commises et que des excuses sont n\u00e9cessaires. La troisi\u00e8me \u00e9tape consiste \u00e0 s&rsquo;excuser le plus rapidement possible, en assumant la responsabilit\u00e9 de ses actes (ou de ses omissions), en exprimant ses remords, en promettant de se racheter et en prenant des mesures pour \u00e9viter de telles m\u00e9saventures \u00e0 l&rsquo;avenir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Comme cela ne figure pas dans les \u00ab\u00a0excuses\u00a0\u00bb de Joe Rogan, il s&rsquo;agit de ce que l&rsquo;on appelle une non-excuse. Et celle-ci n&rsquo;a aucune valeur et ne r\u00e9sout pas la controverse.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pour ceux qui veulent en savoir plus sur l&rsquo;art de s&rsquo;excuser, voici mon <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/gp\/product\/3864707838\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">livre<\/a> avec de nombreux exemples pratiques et humoristiques :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns has-dark-gray-color has-text-color has-background is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\" style=\"background:radial-gradient(rgb(238,238,238) 0%,rgb(169,184,195) 100%)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/gp\/product\/3864707838\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"455\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/technophilosoph.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Sorry-Not-Sorry.jpg?resize=300%2C455&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-4009\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/technophilosoph.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Sorry-Not-Sorry.jpg?w=300&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/technophilosoph.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Sorry-Not-Sorry.jpg?resize=198%2C300&amp;ssl=1 198w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/technophilosoph.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/05\/Sorry-Not-Sorry.jpg?resize=40%2C60&amp;ssl=1 40w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"sorry-not-sorry\">Sorry Not Sorry<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">40 Kunstgriffe f\u00fcr Minister, Manager und sonstige Mistkerle, die Schei\u00dfe gebaut haben und nun die Aufregung nicht verstehen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Dieses Buch kann bereits beim <a href=\"https:\/\/www.boersenmedien.de\/produkt\/sorry-not-sorry-die-kunst-wie-man-sich-nicht-entschuldigt-2166.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Verlag<\/a> oder <a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.de\/gp\/product\/3864707838\" target=\"_blank\">Amazon<\/a> vorbestellt werden.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Nils Lofgren et un certain nombre d&rsquo;autres musiciens ont retir\u00e9 leurs chansons de la plateforme de streaming Spotify, et si l&rsquo;on en croit Twitter, de nombreux utilisateurs ont \u00e9galement ferm\u00e9 leurs comptes sur Spotify. La controverse &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/technophilosoph.com\/fr\/2022\/02\/01\/controverse-sur-spotify-joe-rogan-sest-il-vraiment-excuse-non-il-ne-la-pas-fait\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continuer de lire <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Controverse sur Spotify : Joe Rogan s&rsquo;est-il vraiment excus\u00e9 ? 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